Wait, wait, everyone.
"There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of the MRM. The obvious strawman attack that is your post is not one of them."
"I don’t want to admit my own short comings, so instead, I’ll just say that YOU’RE wrong."
Man, you all just love to shout out “Straw-Man” whenever you see something you don’t like, I’m not sure if you know the actual meaning of the phrase. Inclusion is a critic of Feminism, so it is should obviously go hand in hand with the Men’s Rights Movement. If you want to play hardball with me and claim that the MRM is really fighting for male issues, you should be focusing on all men, not just on vague, small issues that don’t affect everyone.
Would it have helped if I didn’t hurt your poor feelings? How about saying it like: "I argue that the men’s rights movement has misogynistic elements and does not adequately address the concerns and problems faced by men of color, queer men, and trans men.” Because that’s basically what I said.
"You also seem to be terribly, terribly misinformed about what the MRM actually does. I would suggest doing a little light reading instead of only getting your points of views from other feminists. Echo chambers don’t help anyone."
And I suggest you get your opinion from somewhere that isn’t Reddit. WOO- wait- Speaking of fallacies! Now is the time for a lesson! An ad hominem argument is made when instead of acknowledging the issue in question, one attacks the person presenting the issue. By claiming that I am terribly misinformed about what the MRM is, I therefore have no right to talk about it, and my opinions are invalidated.
Ignoratio elenchi, is when an argument may or may not be logically valid, however it fails to address the real issue. I say that Inclusion should be a goal of the MRM. You say, no, but there are valid criticisms of the MRM, just not the ones I introduced. However, you then go on to attack me, instead of coming clean about what these issues actually are. You are so bent on attacking me, that you forget what point you wanted to make.
You have also shifted the philosophical burden of proof."I don’t need to prove MY argument, you just need to disprove mine!" But since you presented no argument, just flung insults and fallacies my way, I’m going to end this.
Stop making feminism your enemy. I am not an army coming to kick down your door and steal your rights. I would like to be treated better as as a woman and as a lesbian. Instead of attacking me for critiquing the MRM, give me these mysterious “real critiques” that you claim the MRM has but refuse to show me. I feel like we could both deal with a little more education.